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Oct 22, 2014 @ 5:57 pm

hey.  I’m laughing.  uhh.  I’ve worked a bit each day this week, so far.

I’m at camp as usual.

there are parties.

it’s grey and rainy here on the east coast.  I’m drinking some peppermint tea.

thoughts turn to small private rituals.  thoughts turn to sobriety.

thoughts turn to purely gestural conversations.  Thoughts turn to adversarial conversations.  To using people as a foil, and to the objectification of people more generally.

I like conversations where the content is more important than the gestures, and the gestures support the content.  It’s ok sometimes when conversations are purely gestural for a certain while.  We call this goofing off or bullshitting. Sometimes a sublime thing happens wherein a purely gestural sort of exchange comes to mean something very clearly, though no constituent part of the exchange is easily translatable into verbal content.  Most often that doesn’t happen, tho, and gesture remains gesture.  Such goofing can still prepare a situation… so that content can emerge.  There are issues of motivation and belief.   Sometimes people have a conversation in which neither/none of the participants is motivated about the content, but both/all people might still have some briefly sustainable interest in the gestures.

Often people speak and respond to one another too quickly.  In conversation we’re constantly making snap judgements about how to interpret each thing we hear, and that’s as it should be.  We constantly must interpret what we hear, since most statements are ambiguous.  But often a person quickly settles on one particular interpretation of what they’ve heard, and then responds in a way that doesn’t admit any possibility that that they didn’t understand correctly.  Usually the conversation doesn’t recover, will not succeed, though it may continue for a while as gesture. Speaker #1 hears the response from speaker #2, recognizes on some bodily level that there is confusion, but then lets the conversation advance anyway.  That is, #1 responds to #2′s response, perhaps visibly registering some dissatisfaction, but without insisting on a review of the initial exchange.  If only the misunderstanding had been so dramatic or ridiculous as to make it impossible to continue, these people might have been saved some time and frustration.

Other times #2 says “I’m not sure if you mean X or Y or Z.”  This is a good thing to say, though it will make some people impatient.  Some interlocutors will think #2 is playing dumb, or turning the conversation into something needlessly academic, or in any case delaying progress.  A person was perhaps certain at the outset of the exchange that their point would be clear, and it was just a matter of progressing to the end of the script.  In many cases it’s a failure of imagination on the part of someone who assumes that if they have said some words, and they understand in their own mind what they mean, others must also understand.

Another thing people are sometimes able to do is respond based on one particular provisional interpretation, but do some kind of signalling to the other person to indicate they aren’t really sure of the interpretation and are especially open to being corrected.  This is also a good thing to do.  It’s a way of slowing things down.

Some common reasons why people speak/respond too quickly:

  • Defensiveness. The person doesn’t want the conversation to succeed, because it’s going to lead somewhere they don’t want to go.  And/or the person is afraid of revealing that they don’t understand certain aspects of the topic.  And/or the person is afraid to reveal a more general inability to converse with other people.  The latter could seem far-fetched but no doubt some people have that basic anxiety.
  • Lack of imagination.
  • A person’s participation in the exchange is goal-driven… they have an agenda… they have a specific place at which they want the conversation to arrive.
  • A person isn’t really interested in the topic (lack of motivation), though they may enjoy the gestures, the company, certain appearances, etc.
  • They don’t believe it’s possible to discuss the topic effectively.  Or they believe they’ve already discussed it, in the past, as effectively as could be.

Those are some paragraphs and a bulleted list about talking, especially about the beginning of conversations after person #1 says a thing and before person #2 says a thing, and then directly after person #2 says a thing and so on, but mostly these beginning things.  Voice is of course is interesting.  It’s made out of everything, and can change completely.


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you can’t do something months ago
Oct 18, 2014 @ 3:34 pm

I just placed my order for a 2nd proof.  I spent much of yesterday reading the text of the book.  yeah, I fixed the power window in the late a.m., then proofs arrived at lunch and without meaning to, I spent much of the day and into the night reading it, perhaps 2 times through, not always in order.  I marked a few things in the text I might change.  mainly the cover is what necessitates the 2nd proof.  and the inside cover pages.


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;l mermre
Oct 17, 2014 @ 4:40 pm

I fixed the hell out of my driver’s side power window today.

I walked around a lot.

the proofs arrived. it’s a little more colorful than it appears here. one or two adjustments needed. CAM01596-1


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Oct 16, 2014 @ 12:00 pm

If you spell both letters of of wrong, it could end up as as or it or or.  But if you only spell one letter wrong, it’s uf or ff.

I’m at one of these junctures that sometimes occur in the life.  I have worked solid for a spell of weeks, and now it is a day when I don’t have to work.  I awoke somewhat late.  I did 4 minutes of work.  Then to lunch.  I walked up the street and down the street.  Up and back.  Ultimately I obtained lunch.  So you see.

the cauliflower sandwich is spicier than usual.  I don’t know what it means, and I don’t much ask, but I’ve become a person who will pay 12 dollars for a sandwich at a counter.

I left my notebook somewhere last night.  so I’ll have to go get it at some point.  it’s in a safe place, at someone’s home.  it’s in a very nice home, a very nice house, and I like to think about how my notebook is in a nice environment, a pleasant environment.  better than here really.  my notebook will be a little deflated to have to return home.  but it’s not so bad here.


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jdgcysjs
Oct 10, 2014 @ 9:11 pm

Opportunities to be ok. Listening from home, while my nephew is at the yard. It’s the sins of omission. I talked to a friend. Glad i have left a few tastes if beer. O’s down one. Early. The postcards i should photograph. Maybe i will walk to the local orioles bar later for a sample. Ive been working a lot for the past month. Ive been slightly above average moast of the time


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qwefqw brg wq
Oct 07, 2014 @ 11:27 am

To be precise, they charged me 151.91 in Oct 2007.  And this time, for the same repair… 158.63.


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en’tr the tle
Oct 05, 2014 @ 8:09 pm

everything we experience is in the past.  it takes a certain amount of time for the electricals anc chemicals.

tho I suppose there must be a present.  the things fed to our past must have at some point happened.  yes, or elese we wouldn’t

huh.  I read the 45 or so lines I wrote yesterday I and I didn’t midn them.  granted..

I sat


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oiwj;cfqwe qg w
Oct 04, 2014 @ 8:24 am

of course   prefer that the sun would just stay down.  it rises  quickly, but it’s still quiet & hard to say why,  darkness doesn’t by itself make things quieter.  it’s probably mostly a diminution of vehicular traffic, but also foot and it may be that overall the birds make more noise in the day. machines are less active. neighbor’s HVAC.  some of it human voices, aka foot traffic.  voices of strangers on the street are one of the things one hears indoors.


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;lijuoi
Oct 01, 2014 @ 9:26 pm

one thing I’ve known for more than ten years is that I’m not a nerd.

I’m so high.

I have this idea about getting going outside of my ego.  ego.  I think it’s possible.

read the instructions.

go to latin america.

listen to burning spear.

 

 


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ioijom
Sep 30, 2014 @ 9:59 pm

strange ups.  and normals.  a very normal average day albeit.  was it two days ago after a bad night I changed to draft weeks.  last night normal , today, tomorrow.  not bad.  I’ve done social things outside of my apartment 6 out of the last 8 days.  it worked.  it’s a trip.  oh I tried to it didn’t work.  that.

the next three days I’m doing social things outside of my apartment.

average

in the future tho, nevermind


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